A desk is a dangerous place from which to view the world.
My father read John le Carré novels. They filled his shelves. I never thought much about them or read one until I began writing. The Spy Who Came in from the Cold, Smiley's people, Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy. Blew my eyes open. Can't say I didn't find them complicated but amazing in his descriptions of places, characters, telling details and locations. And touching because as a reader I cared about these characters, felt them, experienced the emotions, those nuanced details that brought alive a 'safe house' near the London docks operated by the Circus, the apartment of an exiled Russian factory worker in Paris. So aeons ago when le Carré still toured for his books, my father wanted to see him speak at a huge venue next to our City Hall. Before I could buy tickets he begged out. Now I realise that while his spirit wanted to, his body and mind wouldn't cooperate, he was in the beginnings of Alzheimers. But I attended and it was amazing. Not only hearing a writer talk - my first time listening to an author and what an author and speaker! - but of his process, his past in the espionage world and the poignant stories of his father, a con man and criminal, who he had to bail out repeatedly. Maybe it eased his own way into the secret world and maintaining a facade.
Remember Graham Green's dictum that childhood is the bank balance of the writer? I think that all writers feel alienated. Most of us go back to an alienated childhood in some way or another. I know that I do.
Then next day I called the venue to see if I could buy a tape (before podcasts) for my father.
Oh you know le Carré just called me before you did, said the woman in the office. Really? Why?
He wanted to write and thank the techs for their help and asked for their names. Hadn't there just been a podium, microphone and well lit stage? Yet such attention to detail. Thoughtful. But maybe that came from his training as a runner of 'joes'. Still, what a thing to do.
Writing is like walking in a deserted street. Out of the dust in the street you make a mud pie.
He writes in pen, and his wife types up his work. He said the Bodleian library practically threw up their hands when they asked him to donate his papers. Boxes and boxes and boxes worth.
To me, and whether you agree or not, or a fan or not, he's been a voice through his work and layered characters. He's more than a national UK treasure but a living world treasure. Solzhenitsyn, Gunter Grass and many who spoke to our conscience are gone now. Who else has witnessed the Berlin Wall going up and later when it came it down and wrote about those times in ways that brought the readers as witnesses. How Smiley's nemesis, the Russian Karla had one weak spot - love for his daughter - that's a universality one can relate to. How the world he paints isn't black or white but shades of grey. He's seen the world through many decades of war and the Cold war, met the players, gone behind the lines, wrote a spy story while employed at MI5, took on big Pharma before it became popular, and for an eighty plus year old man speaks lucidly and insightfully how what's happening now feels like he remembers in the rise of facism in the 30's.
Proceeds from the tickets go to Medicines sans Frontieres
I'd recommend hearing le Carré (David Cornwell) in his own voice while you still can.
Cara - Tuesday
https://www.johnlecarre.com
Tuesday, October 31, 2017
Monday, October 30, 2017
CWA Awards and London Fun
Annamaria on Monday
I am in London, where I travelled for the CWA banquet and a chance to meet up with some friends. But the huge highlight of the trip was attending the CWA Dagger awards ceremony with Leye Adenle, one of Sunshine Noir's two (out of the six!!!) nominees for best short story.
Stan warned us that the affair was very posh, so Leye and I did our best to make a good impression.
I am in London, where I travelled for the CWA banquet and a chance to meet up with some friends. But the huge highlight of the trip was attending the CWA Dagger awards ceremony with Leye Adenle, one of Sunshine Noir's two (out of the six!!!) nominees for best short story.
Stan warned us that the affair was very posh, so Leye and I did our best to make a good impression.
The tables were set with place cards that put us pals opposite each other.
When I picked up my phone to snap this picture through the candles..
I found Leye taking the same photo of me.
The competition for the our category was stiff, and the award went to LC Tyler, but we agreed that our Sunshine hotties snagging two of the six spots was a huge honour. (This spelling courtesy of my laptop knowing that I am in the UK at the moment.)
I noted that of the six nominees for the International dagger...
...the only Nordic entry won,...
...but I was encouraged to note that four of the six nominees were hot clime writers--two Italians and two Spaniards.
A huge THANK YOU to the delightful Ali Karim for the picture of Leye and me above. |
I spent the ensuing two days in my usual guise, as a Nerd in Paradise, researching at the British Library:
A few of the front page images that grace the walls of the Newsroom in the library |
Three of the four volumes of bound copies of British East African newspapers that were at my disposal. |
You know you're a nerd when you look at a huge book full of these and say, "Yum." |
Sunday, October 29, 2017
Walking With Kobo Daishi - A Visit To Okunoin
--Susan, every other Sunday
On both of my last two trips to Japan, I spent significant time beneath the towering ancient cedars of Okunoin - Japan's largest cemetery.
The cemetery stretches over a mile from end to end, and has over 200,000 graves--some of which serve as the spiritual grave sites for multiple people rather than just one.
The cemetery begins at Ichi-no-hashi (the first bridge), where a paved path leads visitors into the cedar-lined path that runs through Okunoin from end to end.
Lanterns along the side of the path illuminate the way on cloudy days and after dark. (The cemetery is open year round, 24 hours a day - and it is haunted, but not in a menacing way, as I've written about here before.)
According to Shingon doctrine, anyone buried--in part or entirely--at Okunoin will return to life first at the time Miroku (the Buddha of the Future) returns to earth at the end of days. For that and other reasons, since the cemetery's founding in the 9th century, many adherents of the Shingon faith (and others -- anyone can be buried at Okunoin, if (s)he believes in the teachings of Kobo Daishi, Buddhist or not) have wanted to be buried on the mountain.
Kobo Daishi, the priest who brought Shingon Buddhism to Japan from China, is buried there too - though Shingon doctrine states he's actually still alive, in a state of eternal meditation that will continue until Miroku returns.
Visiting Okunoin, and seeing his mausoleum, is often referred to as "Visiting Kobo Daishi" - and he has many, many visitors. Okunoin is a popular tourist destination for Buddhists and non-Buddhists, Japanese people, and foreign visitors.
It doesn't hurt that the cemetery has glorious foliage displays each autumn, either.
Or that its graves have incredible character:
Some monuments are built on behalf of companies for the benefit of their employees, like the Nissan tomb I posted above. There's even a tomb erected by a termite company--on behalf of the insects it kills in the course of business. (I don't have a picture of that one either, because despite three days of exploring, I haven't found it yet. Stay tuned. I haven't given up.)
Many famous Japanese people are buried (or have mausoleums or monuments) there, including several shoguns and numerous daimyō (medieval warlords).
Their monuments stand directly beside those of ordinary people, men and women whose names and achievements are now mostly lost to history.
In all my travels, I have never been to a place as silently peaceful as Okunoin. The cedars rise to the sky like protective sentinels, guarding the dead who lie beneath.
The well-tended graves and kerchiefed Buddha statues speak of a place where the dead may not be visible, but remain as loved and remembered as any living person could ever hope to be.
It is a place where even the most troubled, stressed-out heart can find peace, and where anyone with reverence for the spirit and the residents of the place is not only welcome, but invited to walk and think and be.
It is a holy place, where real, lasting peace feels possible, tangible, and close.
These photos don't do justice to its beauty, so I hope, if you ever have the chance, you'll go and visit Kobo Daishi beneath the trees.
I can assure you, it will be a day well spent.
On both of my last two trips to Japan, I spent significant time beneath the towering ancient cedars of Okunoin - Japan's largest cemetery.
A map of Okunoin. Kobo Daishi's mausoleum is at the top, and the entrance at the bottom left. |
The cemetery stretches over a mile from end to end, and has over 200,000 graves--some of which serve as the spiritual grave sites for multiple people rather than just one.
The Nissan Corporation tomb - erected on behalf of all employees, past and present. |
The cemetery begins at Ichi-no-hashi (the first bridge), where a paved path leads visitors into the cedar-lined path that runs through Okunoin from end to end.
Visitors bow before crossing Ichi-no-hashi into Okunoin. |
Lanterns along the side of the path illuminate the way on cloudy days and after dark. (The cemetery is open year round, 24 hours a day - and it is haunted, but not in a menacing way, as I've written about here before.)
Illuminating the way. |
According to Shingon doctrine, anyone buried--in part or entirely--at Okunoin will return to life first at the time Miroku (the Buddha of the Future) returns to earth at the end of days. For that and other reasons, since the cemetery's founding in the 9th century, many adherents of the Shingon faith (and others -- anyone can be buried at Okunoin, if (s)he believes in the teachings of Kobo Daishi, Buddhist or not) have wanted to be buried on the mountain.
Buddhas in their kerchiefs and bibs |
Kobo Daishi, the priest who brought Shingon Buddhism to Japan from China, is buried there too - though Shingon doctrine states he's actually still alive, in a state of eternal meditation that will continue until Miroku returns.
You can't photograph Kobo Daishi's mausoleum, so here's a buddha for you instead. |
Visiting Okunoin, and seeing his mausoleum, is often referred to as "Visiting Kobo Daishi" - and he has many, many visitors. Okunoin is a popular tourist destination for Buddhists and non-Buddhists, Japanese people, and foreign visitors.
It doesn't hurt that the cemetery has glorious foliage displays each autumn, either.
Autumn blazing at Okunoin. |
Or that its graves have incredible character:
The best Buddha anywhere. |
Some monuments are built on behalf of companies for the benefit of their employees, like the Nissan tomb I posted above. There's even a tomb erected by a termite company--on behalf of the insects it kills in the course of business. (I don't have a picture of that one either, because despite three days of exploring, I haven't found it yet. Stay tuned. I haven't given up.)
Many side paths branch off from the main one. |
Many famous Japanese people are buried (or have mausoleums or monuments) there, including several shoguns and numerous daimyō (medieval warlords).
The mausoleum of Uesugi Kenshin, erected during the 16th century. |
Their monuments stand directly beside those of ordinary people, men and women whose names and achievements are now mostly lost to history.
Many tombs. Many lives. |
In all my travels, I have never been to a place as silently peaceful as Okunoin. The cedars rise to the sky like protective sentinels, guarding the dead who lie beneath.
The graves don't ever seem to end. |
Dead, but not forgotten. |
It is a place where even the most troubled, stressed-out heart can find peace, and where anyone with reverence for the spirit and the residents of the place is not only welcome, but invited to walk and think and be.
It is a holy place, where real, lasting peace feels possible, tangible, and close.
These photos don't do justice to its beauty, so I hope, if you ever have the chance, you'll go and visit Kobo Daishi beneath the trees.
I can assure you, it will be a day well spent.
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Saturday, October 28, 2017
Greece Created Democracy, But Did You Know It Also Saved It?
Jeff—Saturday
Today, October 28th, is a Greek national holiday;
one of two publicly revered ones to be precise.
The other, March 25, commemorates the day in 1821 that Greece declared
its Independence from the Ottoman Empire and fought until 1832 to obtain
it.
Today’s holiday, “Oxi
Day” (pronounced “O-hee” and meaning “no” in Greek), represents the moment in
1940 when Greece set in motion events ultimately saving democracy for the world. As Adolph Hitler’s Chief of Staff later said,
“The Greeks delayed by two or more vital months the German attack against
Russia; if we did not have this long delay, the outcome of the war would have
been different.”
“Oxi,” together with two other words uttered nearly two and
a half centuries earlier by Spartan King Leonidas in response to Persian king
Xerxes’ demand that the Spartans surrender their weapons—“Molon Labe”
(pronounced mo-lone laveh), meaning “come and take them”—is all you need to
know to understand how Greeks react to adversity.
Those three words represent the essence of the Greek will,
and permeate their attitudes toward virtually all things. Some say that leaves them open to manipulation
by nationalistic political jingoists seeking to distract their attention from otherwise
serious, underlying national problems and shortcomings…but what nation these
days is free from that.
Despite all the trials and tribulations endured by this
nation of eleven million over the past near decade, and the certainty of more
difficult times to come, to those of you who wonder if the Greek spirit will
somehow throw in the towel—I simply say as I’ve said before, ‘NO.”
King Leonidas I |
And here’s how Oxi Day came to pass.
On the morning of August 15, 1940, the Greek navel vessel Elli was in the harbor of the Cycladic
island of Tinos. It was peacetime and
the light cruiser was anchored to participate in a major Greek Orthodox
holiday, The Dormition of the Theotokos (Assumption of the Virgin Mary). Without warning the Elle was torpedoed and sunk by a submarine, killing nine and
wounding twenty-four. Although fragments
of the torpedo clearly identified its source, the Greek government officially
declared the nationality of the attacking submarine as “unknown.” The Greek government may have been reluctant
to declare the attacker as Italy, and therefore immerse itself in war, but the
people knew who was behind it.
Elli |
Two months later, around dawn on the morning of October 28,
1940, after a party at the German embassy in Athens, the Italian ambassador
approached Greece’s Prime Minister Ioannis Metaxas and demanded that Greece
surrender to the Axis powers or face immediate war with Italy. He offered Greece three hours to decide. Italy had seven times the population of
Greece, seven times the troops, ten times the firepower, and total air
superiority.
Ioannis Metaxa |
The Prime Minister’s response was simple: “Oxi.”
And less than two hours later Italian troops stationed in Albania
invaded Greece. Occupation of Greece was
critical to Hitler’s plan for isolating British troops in North Africa. The Italians expected it to be a three-day
war. They learned otherwise.
Oxi became the
battle cry of the Greek people. Within
weeks the Italians were driven back into Albania, and repelled by the Greeks at
every effort to occupy Greece. It became
clear to Hitler that Italy was not up to the task and on April 6, 1941 Germany
invaded Greece, but it took even the Nazis five weeks to succeed. Greek resistance had thrown off Hitler’s
plans to capture Russia before the winter of 1941.
The Greeks were the first people in Europe (outside of Great
Britain) to stand up to the demands of Germany and its allies, but their one
hundred eighty-five days of resistance took a horrific toll on their country:
One million of Greece’s citizens (13% of the population) are
estimated to have died from battle, starvation, resistance, reprisals and
concentration camps.
Greece’s infrastructure, economy and agriculture were
destroyed.
Greece’s gold, works of art, and treasures were plundered.
Civil war followed and many emigrated.
On a purely economic basis, it is estimated that in standing
up to the Axis’ threats Greece was left in financial straits twice as bad as it
finds itself in today… and its societal costs were inestimably worse.
So today, as Greece struggles under different serious
challenges, for those who seek to capture the extent of Greece’s national
determination in a phrase, let me offer a quote from someone who understood as
well as anyone on earth what the world once more owed to Greece: “Hence we will not say that Greeks fight
like heroes, but Heroes fight like Greeks.”
Winston Churchill.
Xronia Polla,
y’all.
—Jeff
Friday, October 27, 2017
The End Of Things. And bobolinks?
Today I am at the end of the world. It is a place called
after a prince who became a king and then became a potato.
There is nobody here. It’s a half hour drive to buy a loaf
of bread if you are lucky. It’s a full hour plus to be certain of the bread.
And an internet signal that is slightly weaker than a distressed honey bee
trying to toss a caber; a lot of activity achieving nothing.
The roadways have been closed with giant boulders, all
leaving one option at a junction, and that choice takes you right back to where
you started. Entrance and exit barriers are all raised. The ticket offices are
closed, the attractions lie dull and motionless. And silent.
The long empty road runs to infinity in front and behind, a
long streak of grey as far as the eye can see. There’s a triangular sign
warning that the speed limit is 9 km an hour. Not 8. Not 10, but 9.
Volleyball nets packed away, swings hang loose blowing
slightly in the breeze. The flag is wrapped round the flagpole, the maple leaf
will not see the light of day until there is some daylight to see but there is
rebellion in the quiet yet tuneful chink chink chink of the metal clasps drumming on the flagpole with the rhythm of the wind. The music is gone but not forgotten.
At the marina, there are sun bleached posters for pickleball
and line dancing. Four oldies have been abandoned, overlooked on the checklist by their relatives and
left behind. The buggies are parked at
the side of the pontoon, on the pontoon itself sit the gang of four, in
collapsing deck chairs, wrapped in warm blankets.
I know that tomorrow there will be three, then two then one. It’s like
watching the end of Beaches in slow motion.
We have made friends with a
black squirrel, a chipmunk – well we think hes a chipmunk but watching
Alvin gave us no idea of scale- wee brown guys with two go faster white
stripes? Alvin had led me to believe that his chipmunks were the size of small dogs, or large rabbits. Maybe they and these ones are stunted by the lack of ....everything.
We are also friends with a small green frog we meet every morning as we walk the streets
looking at the empty houses, fire pits
covered over, buggies cling filmed in blue tarpaulin, chairs tied onto the
verandah, windows closed, blinds down nobody at home. We are intrigued by the ancient hearse on the front lawn, and by a stuffed white Alsation stuffed on the back of a sofa, waiting.
There are a few folk hanging around, they are either inflatable or have
pumpkin heads and rags for clothes and are looking a bit weatherbeaten. I don’t
think they are going to last. The end of the month will be it.
I am looking for a bobolink.
Having no internet, I have no idea what it is but I am determined to
find one. He sounds fun.
The waves though never cease to pound the concrete beach.
Yesterday I found a dance floor. Deep in the vegetation my
feet realised they were on Terrazzo, the black and white tiles are now shades of
grey but still easily seen. There once was a hotel here, over a million
visitors in the hundred years the building occupied this site beside the lake. A small placard has a
couple of pictures and the interesting snippet that the ladies used to walk to
promenade on their way down to dinner, wearing the latest fashions. Spinsters (
not ladies obviously) would sit and read books
while the young men played jazz and cards, never the twain met. They
also had a three hole golf course.
I wonder what they did to cope with the excitement.
This morning, the sun is shining. The dream catchers lie still but it has a sense of
expectation. I wonder what the dreamcatcher is hoping for. The big one that hangs from the wooden roof of a house on Elm
Street looks busy. I bet who carved that street name on the tree was having a laugh.
We are on a pull through site, that suggests that we are
expected to pull through.
I guess many don’t.
I think we are at the end of the world while at the end of
the world if you see what I mean, both physically and chronologically.
There are no pictures, The hard working internet bee cannot
cope.
But with no internet and no human interaction I am writing.
And I am reading.
I am reading books by Antti Tuomienen.
I think I might have read too many.
I used to be Scottish. I am now dystopian.
Caro Ramsay 27 10 2017. Even that date. It's too much.
Thursday, October 26, 2017
Writing with-
Michael - Thursday
Bouchercon
was great fun (as it always is), and I had a super panel. In the first place it
was on a topic that really interests me—how mystery and thriller authors go
about writing collaboratively—and second the authors on the panel are all award
winning, New York Times bestselling authors, and, equally important, they are
very interesting and experienced writers. I was the moderator, so I could find
out all the things I’ve always wanted to know from them.
The
panelists were:
Reed Farrel
Coleman, who continues the enormously popular Robert B Parker Jesse Stone
series. Reed has just pocketed his fourth Shamus award and has won just about
everything else going except the Edgar—and he’s been a finalist for that four
times.
JT Ellison
is a big name in her own right with standalones and series, and has won the ITW
Thriller award. She writes the ‘Brit in the FBI’ series with Catherine Coulter
and their latest collaboration—The Devil’s Triangle—has everything, the lost
ark, weather control technology, higher than high tech, even an underground
motorcycle chase. (JT said that had come to Catherine in a dream—literally—and
she had to fit it in somehow!)
Chris
Grabenstein writes witty mysteries on his own, and has won the Anthony, Agatha
and Sid Feischman humor awards. He also
produces a prolific series of wildly successful books for young readers with
James Patterson. He was this year’s Bouchercon4kids guest of honor.
Charles and
Caroline Todd write the popular Inspector Ian Rutledge and Bess Crawford
mysteries set at the time of the First World War. They’ve won the Barry,
Agatha, McCavity, and Mary Higgins Clark awards, and been short listed for the Edgar. Charles and Caroline kindly stepped in for Max and Barbara Collins who
had to drop out because of some medical issues shortly before the convention.
So you can
see why it was a dream panel assignment for me; not only did I have a group of great
authors, but their work spanned the whole spectrum of collaboration.
I started off by asking each of them how the collaboration had started for them, and how it worked.
Reed took over the Jesse Stone series from another author, who parted ways with Robert B Parker's estate. He read all the previous books, trying to get himself into RBP's style. Then he got some really good advice from a friend who is a great Elvis fan. The friend has seen all the films, heard all the records, seen all the Elvis impersonators. The advice was simply this: all the Elvis impersonators were just that-they could never be Elvis. Reed took the advice to heart, found his own style consistent with the series, and has just launched the fourth book. It seems to work. The Hangman's Sonnet started right up the New York Times best seller list.
Reed speculated
that a writing partnership has to have a boss (at least if both authors are
still alive), and JT confirmed that Catherine was the boss. Her agent was
approached by Catherine’s, and so she flew out to Catherine’s home to discuss a
collaboration. It went well from the start, but Catherine is the big name, so
she has to be happy with the style, plot and writing. JT’s own books are more
in the police procedural space, and so she enjoys writing the James Bond style
thrillers. Thrillers give a freedom from the more constrained murder mystery.
Chris
confirmed that ‘Jim’ Patterson was the boss. They went back a long way because Jim was
Chris’s first boss at an advertising agency. When he approached Chris many years later about a collaboration on books for kids, Chris jumped at it.
Chris gave
us a very different view from the rather snobbish one of Patterson having a slave
pen of writers who do all the work and then have their names dropped off the
books. Patterson is incredibly hard working and Chris estimates that he does
more than half the work on the collaborative effort. He works on eight books
simultaneously each month. His office
has eight desks each with the work for one of the projects. Chris often wakes
to phone messages about their latest book. Overall, a very enjoyable
experience, he says.
Charles and Caroline told us the history of their collaboration. Both shared an interest in history, and enjoyed visiting England and the period of the early nineteen hundreds. Caroline said she chose Charles by default; none of the others in her family wanted to write with her. Charles just smiled and nodded.
Their first idea came from a true case of a soldier whose body had been found where it was unexpected, and no one had really determined what the real story was. Speculating about that case gave them ideas for their first Rutledge book, A Test of Wills. Caroline once told me that they were unsure of who the murderer was right up to the last few chapters. That's serious pantsing!
They write and research together - pretty much as we do. When things seem to one of them to be going offtrack, their solution is to work out what is best for the character.
As for Michael Stanley, two days ago we launched our sixth Detective Kubu book Dying to Live. Each of our books has followed a slightly different path. The first was pure pantsing, and we did everything together - writing, research, learning the craft. The second book we outlined and stuck to the outline pretty well. It worked, and we felt we had found the successful formula for efficiently writing books. Until the third book. We wrote the outline, but found it didn't work when we actually wrote the book. We shrugged it off, gave the characters their heads after that, and they galloped through the book - except we didn't know how it ended. Till we did. And so on. Now we expect each book to have something of its own writing style. We like being surprised as much as the readers do!
As for Michael Stanley, two days ago we launched our sixth Detective Kubu book Dying to Live. Each of our books has followed a slightly different path. The first was pure pantsing, and we did everything together - writing, research, learning the craft. The second book we outlined and stuck to the outline pretty well. It worked, and we felt we had found the successful formula for efficiently writing books. Until the third book. We wrote the outline, but found it didn't work when we actually wrote the book. We shrugged it off, gave the characters their heads after that, and they galloped through the book - except we didn't know how it ended. Till we did. And so on. Now we expect each book to have something of its own writing style. We like being surprised as much as the readers do!
All the panelists seemed to be pretty happy with their collaborations (although Reed mentioned one with Ken Bruen which had not gone so well). It works for us and our readers!
Mystery to Me bookstore
1863 Monroe St, Madison, WI 53711
(608) 283-9332
Free registration at Eventbright or by calling the store
October 27, 6:00pm to 8:30pm
Aunt Agatha’s
213 S 4th Ave # 1A, Ann Arbor, MI 48104
(734) 769-1114
Dinner (6:00pm) and discussion (7:00pm).
Please contact the store beforehand for details
October 30, 7:00pm
Centuries & Sleuths Bookstore
7419 W. Madison Street
Forest Park, IL 60130
(708) 771-7243
Discussion and refreshments
November 1, 7:00pm
Barnes and Noble
2100 Snelling Ave, St Paul, MN 55113
(651) 639-9256
7:00pm. Discussion
November 4, 10:30am.
Mystery Lovers Bookshop
514 Allegheny River Blvd, Oakmont, PA 15139
(412) 828-4877
Coffee and Crime
We're on the road! Here are our upcoming events:
TONIGHT October 26, 7:00pmMystery to Me bookstore
1863 Monroe St, Madison, WI 53711
(608) 283-9332
Free registration at Eventbright or by calling the store
October 27, 6:00pm to 8:30pm
Aunt Agatha’s
213 S 4th Ave # 1A, Ann Arbor, MI 48104
(734) 769-1114
Dinner (6:00pm) and discussion (7:00pm).
Please contact the store beforehand for details
October 30, 7:00pm
Centuries & Sleuths Bookstore
7419 W. Madison Street
Forest Park, IL 60130
(708) 771-7243
Discussion and refreshments
November 1, 7:00pm
Barnes and Noble
2100 Snelling Ave, St Paul, MN 55113
(651) 639-9256
7:00pm. Discussion
November 4, 10:30am.
Mystery Lovers Bookshop
514 Allegheny River Blvd, Oakmont, PA 15139
(412) 828-4877
Coffee and Crime
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