Thursday, February 16, 2023

Animal minds

 Michael – every other Thursday


The Thinker
I’ve often wondered about how animals think, how they process the data from their senses, and what consciousness they have (and what that even means). Animal senses are similar to ours but may have different meanings to the animal. For example, dogs have a much better sense of smell than we do and we all know what interest and attention they focus on it. Clearly they obtain much more information from it than we do. So could they take the scents and build an image of the past from them? Do they see what is there now and visualize how it was in the recent past? Alternatively, scent could be kept completely separate from sight. Your eyes tell you what is here right now, your nose what was here in the recent or older past. Is there a conscious decision to follow a scent based on “I will find such and such if I follow this trail”, or is it an instinctive reaction?

The Dow Jones did WHAT?


African hunting dogs - standoff with hyena

I once watched a pack of African hunting dogs going after impala. They rushed the herd and then chased individuals. One impala managed to outrun a dog, but was apparently too exhausted to run further. It dropped into some longish grass and lay absolutely still. We could easily see it from the vehicle, but evidently it was hidden at dog height. A dog arrived, also panting, and the endgame seemed inevitable. It stopped and sniffed, looking around for the prey. Then it moved in circles, apparently trying to spot the impala or to get a clear scent. Perhaps the problem was that the herd had been all over the area, the impala scents were everywhere. Eventually, the dog gave up, moved off to rejoin the pack, and the impala lived to flee another day.

I’m certainly not the first person to think about these things. Maybe everyone has considered the difference between human and animal minds in some context.

Of course, anthropomorphism is dangerous and almost impossible to avoid. How do we interpret the world if not by comparison to our own behaviors? It’s natural to interpret a dog’s cocked head as curiosity or puzzlement, but perhaps it’s just trying to get a better fix on the sound. (Try Googling it to find out what people think. No hits on what dogs think.)

No one really believes that Paul Gallico’s charming Jennie was “translated from the original feline”, nor that cats solve murder mysteries (or even that they care about them), but in many other ways we assume animal reactions match the corresponding human ones. No doubt sometimes we are right, and other times we are wrong in surprising ways.
Nothing to say all animal minds are the same...

A lot of philosophy has been written on the subject of animal minds (Descartes had an early go at it). Interestingly, the argument often reduces to one of language. Many writers see a high-level language as an indispensable requirement for meaningful thought and consciousness. Others attack that point of view, but it is hard to conceive of any type of abstract reasoning without a language in which to express it. Nevertheless, some experimental protocols have been tried with monkeys, apes, and dolphins that suggest that at least some conscious decision making takes place. Other researchers have queried those protocols. We don’t have the capability to “read” animal thoughts (or human ones for that matter although Elon Musk is working on that), and if it comes to it, we’re not 100% sure what human consciousness actually is or how to define it.



No wonder that so-called artificial intelligence is such an issue…

 

12 comments:

  1. Michael, your first captioned provided my first coffee spit-take of the day! Loved this, as, since I actually have wild animals in my books, I do a lot of reading on the subject. Their levels of intelligence and instint far surpass ours, as far as I'm concerned.

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    1. Very important point, Wendall. As writers, how do we handle wild animals? Probably pretty much as we handle human characters, by observation, thought, and research/reading. But, of course, we do know how at least ONE human thinks and feels...

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  2. The mistake, when thinking about "animal minds" is to use the word 'intelligence.' That's a loaded word just in HUMAN circles. I've no doubt that most mammals on the planet share a similar fundamental brain performance. The mammalian brain has been shaped by the need to survive and to reproduce, and those pressures are pretty much the same (sex, food, and don't get killed) regardless of the species. Where things differ are on INPUTS (the quality, type, and extent of 'senses') and complexity. There are plenty of examples of animals using tools, language. Given all the other similarities (historical and contemporaneous), it's hard to not believe that our minds are quite similar. Does a cat prove pythagoras' theorem? Of course not, but watching a cat leap into the air and catch a bird on the wing is just as amazing as watching an outfielder catch a home run ball just as its about to cross the left-field wall. Watching a pack of wolves or other pack-hunting creatures work together... well, the examples are too numerous to discount the capabilities of the animal mind.

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    1. I agree, Everett. Lots of similarities, but what are the fundamental differences? If, indeed there are any?

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    2. I think the differences are more a matter of 'degree' than 'kind,' for mammals, anyway. Off and on, I've fed sunflower seeds to the gray squirrels in the back yard. They show all the human characteristics of greed, play/joy, territoriality, planning (storing excess seeds for the future), ingenuity (no matter WHAT you do, they'll find a way to get to the bird seed), etc.

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  3. Wonderful post, Michael. And, by the way, I am not 100% sure Elon Musk is a human being.

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  4. Thanks! I won't comment on Elon Musk. Maybe his mind needs a study all of its own?

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    1. That was me—AA, Michael, but you probably knew that, given the snide sense of humor. I think studying Elon Musk would require a science onto itself. I would warn any one tempted to try such a thing not to do so without a shopping bag full of heavy dosage prescription drugs!

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  5. I recall the startling discovery that a dog can see an image of something as more than colours on a piece of paper. Show a smart dog a picture of a zebra, and it will return with a zebra toy. Show my dog a picture of a pizza, and while you're doing that she'll steal your pizza.

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    1. Mmm. That last comment suggests that dogs may actually be SMARTER than humans.

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  6. My sense is that non-humans consider humans far too complicated to figure out, and thus leave us to our own devices...until meal time.

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