Today I have been interrogating two, or three people. They are known to MIE as part of the very successful, and funny, Four Blokes In Search Of A Plot. Well two of them found half a plot and decided to do something really a little special with it.
Death Insurance.
Hi to Douglas and Morgan,
So, first who is Morgan
Cry exactly?
Douglas: Oooh, I want to know too.
Morgan:
Morgan Cry is my ex-pat alias. Thanks to those wonderful folks at Polygon I’m
leaving the dark alleyways of tartan noir and heading for the Spanish sunshine.
Morgan Cry debuts with a cracking tale of murder, intrigue, and a daughter
flung right in at the deep end with her mother's secrets. (plug over)
And who am I really? I’m Gordon Brown
– no, not the ex-prime minister who, for information, is actually called James
Gordon Brown and my name is Gordon James Brown – got it?
And Douglas, who are you again?
Douglas: Oooh, I want to know too. Can anyone tell me?
Anyone? Ramsay? Brown? Cry? Bueller?
Whose idea was
the short story? Was there alcohol
involved?
Douglas: It was Morgan/Gordon’s idea and, truth be
told, he did most of the work, I just sat back, sipped a planter’s punch (the
planter was a socially isolated two metres away sipping mine) and made a few
suggestions here and there. Like ‘I think we need a full stop there, old boy,
not a comma.’ Gordon would say, ‘I’ll put you in a comma.’ It was all very
simple really. For me, anyway.
Morgan: ‘There
were two steps in the process’, he lies with ease. The idea to do a joint story
in the first place and then the actual story. The original idea for doing a
joint story was mine. I’d been thinking about the way that, back in the day, magazines
would publish stories in serial form, revealing week by week more and more. I
wondered if that would work in today’s digital world and contacted Douglas (one
my fellow criminals in Four Blokes) and asked if he would be interested in
trying to create something. For reasons only he knows, he said yes.
As to the story itself, well that was
totally unplanned. Other than it would star Daniella Coulstoun (my protagonist
from ‘Thirty-One Bones’) and Rebecca Connolly (Douglas’s lead from ‘Thunder
Bay’ and ‘The Blood is Still’) – we had no plan.
As you know
Murder Is Everywhere also has a joint writing team ‘Michael Stanley,’ why are you two both taking credit for the short story rather
that Douglas Cry or Morgan Skelton, the latter does sound like a bank though….
Douglas: We thought about Douglas Cry but it sounded
more like a suggestion during lockdown than a pen name. And yes, Morgan Skelton
does sound like a bank, so in hindsight we should have gone for that and we
might have been eligible for a taxpayer bailout.
Morgan: We
could have gone down the legal route of naming ourselves Morgan, Cry, Douglas
and Skelton or even MCDS and charged our services by the hour – but we didn’t.
It was always a joint effort designed to help promote our own books so it made
sense to have both our names on it – if for no other reason than people would
know who to blame.
To nuts and
bolts, how does writing a joint story happen?
Morgan: When
we are on stage doing Four Blokes, each of the authors takes it in turn to
write, reading what the last author has created and writing the next part of
the story. So, in these lockdown days, it seemed to make sense to use the same
process. I wrote a thousand odd words and passed it to Douglas who wrote the
next thousand and so it went on, day by day. At a few key waypoints we did
phone each other and utter the words, ‘Where in the hell is this going?’ – but
not often.
Douglas: Because Morgan was taking the story from the
POV of his character Daniella Coulstoun and I was writing from Rebecca
Connolly’s POV it was easy to break down. So Gordon started, I continued, and
so on. We edited and honed as we went along – neither of us are precious, which
is why Gollum isn’t interested in us. Then, when we had a complete draft we
discussed it and adapted.
Most people would
say that nothing exciting happens in the world of insurance so why was that starting
point of the story?
Morgan: A
friend of my wife works in an insurance call centre and although she is very
discreet with her tales from the office floor she has revealed that some of the
calls they receive can be on the weird side of the wonderful. In my new book
Daniella works in an insurance office (at least she did) and since I was the
one to put pen to paper first I simply imagined Daniella at work and what would
happen if she received a crank call that turned out to be a dangerous call.
I know Rebecca is
a serial character of Douglas’ s books, what about Daniella ?
Morgan: My
new book, ‘Thirty-One Bones’, is set
in Spain where Daniella’s mother, the owner of a very dysfunctional ex-pat bar,
dies and Daniella flies out to the funeral. Daniella is a thirty-six year old
claims assistant that dislikes her life back home – and gets flung into a
dangerous world when it turns out her mother had stolen a large amount of money
just before she died – and Daniella is on the hook with some nasty locals to
get it back.
Was this a
publisher’s idea to introduce the characters to a wider audience? What was the idea behind the instalment
release?
Douglas: No, it was always Gordon’s notion to use our
existing characters and make it a serial.
The women in the
short story are pretty impressive people. There’s a degree or sexual harassment
goes on with the office politics. Did that come about because you were both
writing about a young female lead or did you write about a young female lead so
you could add that extra dimension. ( feel free to say that men get sexually
harassed all the time !)
Morgan: Office
politics can be a nasty business. I’ve worked in and about business for
thirty-five years and some of the behaviour I’ve seen is appalling. The
dynamics in many situations give people power that they happily abuse. Men can
be sexually harassed but it’s more prevalent for women. I liked the idea of
Daniella fronting up to such harassment as a backstory to reveal to the reader
the strength of her character - something that really comes to the fore in
‘Thirty-One Bones’.
Douglas: Rebecca has encountered some subtle sexual
harassment, mostly looks and comments, but nothing as overt as Daniella does in
this. As for them being impressive, ALL your characters should make an
impact, even weak characters should be strong, if you know what I mean,
regardless of gender.
What happened
when the other author writes something really awful? Do you press delete or
mentally take them into a dark cupboard and have a word?
Morgan: It
was terrible. Hours and hours of re-writing Douglas’s work took its toll on me.
We nearly split up over it – or there is the truth – Douglas is a brilliant
writer. I never received anything from him that gave me cause to go back and
shout and scream. There were a few small edits or, after a chat, a few changes
to make the story flow – but it was all rather amicable and quick.
Douglas: There was nothing of that nature to worry
about but we had agreed that If there was something that didn’t work we know each
other well enough, and trust each other enough, to feel free to say so. Well,
that’s what Morgan/Gordon told me and he’s a big fella so I was not about to
argue.
Would you repeat
the process?
Morgan: I
said to Douglas that this could have been a novel in its own right. It’s
already a fifth of one. Maybe we should turn it into a full-blown book.
Douglas: Yes, if the project was right for both of us
and the nudity was integral to the plot. Sorry, that’s from another Q&A –
Adult Movies in Lockdown.
What are you both
writing about at the moment?
Morgan: I’ve
just handed book two in Daniella’s life for the publisher to read and I’m now
working on a lockdown novel that has nothing to do with the lockdown. I’ve also
been editing a 1970’s crime stand-alone that I wrote over Christmas.
Douglas: I’m beavering away. I built a dam yesterday.
I really should be working on the next Rebecca Connolly, though.
What is your
involvement with Sbooks? ( I was listening to it and heard the story of
‘Morgan’ as a name ). Douglas, who has
been your best guest?
Douglas: Sbooks is a podcast that is the brainchild
of author Denzil Meyrick. He does most of the work while I sit back and enjoy
an Old Fashioned. I’m not telling you an Old Fashioned what because it’s not
that kind of blog. The idea behind it was to simply chat to anyone connected to
books, nothing formal, nothing prepared, just a free-wheeling chat. The one
rule was no politics, which is hard. And my best guest was (checks to see who
is asking these questions) Caro Ramsay!
Morgan: Denzil Meyrick interviewed me on the podcast.
One of the questions he asked me was where the name Morgan Cry came from. Before
writing it I already knew that for a third series the name Gordon Brown
wouldn't work. Despite my constant jests about having the same name as the ex
PM it’s also a pain promotionally. With ‘Thirty-One Bones’ being the start
(hopefully) of a new series it made sense to create a new identity. Morgan is
my dad’s name. He was a policeman in Glasgow the sixties and seventies and it’s
a bit of a tribute to him. I chose Cry because it sounded good with Morgan –
and also sounds crimey (ish). Morgan is also my youngest brother’s name and I
had to call him to ask for his permission. He laughed. Said yes, but laughed.
What weird things
are you doing to promote your books during lockdown?
Morgan: Death
Insurance is part of the promotion for the new book – ‘Thirty-One Bones’ is out
in July -available for pre-order now. I’ve also written a Daniella Coulstoun short
story that will soon be published. In addition, the Four Blokes are looking to
take a ride into the digital landscape in the near future.
Douglas: Well, not sure it promotes my books but I do
occasional short videos featuring Spanky the Cheeky Monkey, who tells jokes,
answers questions and indulges in various musical interludes. There have also
been a couple of short stories here and there, too. I’ve recorded a reading
from The Blood is Still but rather than have my face on screen I edited
together some footage I shot at Culloden, added some music and posted it to You
Tube. Then there’s the four Blokes thing which will be … different.
Will Spanky write
his lifestory…..
Douglas: Well, he’s a large glove puppet so it would
be called ‘Getting a Hand Up’. And it would be a racy read, I think. He does
tend to go bananas.
Best and worst
experience of lockdown?
Morgan: Best
– more space to write than I’ve ever had. Worst – growing a beard – it’s taking
way too long.
Douglas: I live in a relatively remote area of south
west Scotland so I’m used to the isolation but I do miss the ability to just
get in the car and drive up to Glasgow to annoy Caro Ramsay.
Caro Ramsay
01 05 2020
Fascinating! I never realised it was so easy to write with someone else!
ReplyDeleteHow do I get my hands on Death Insurance? On Amazon?
I shall send you the link!
ReplyDeleteHow lucky are those blokes to have you as their Boswell...albeit he an Edinburgher (do chips come with that) and you a Glaswegian. I think the crew should consider renaming itself four blokes in search of a plotting blonde.
ReplyDeleteI was asked to do something similar, on the fly, at a crime festival in the States. The audience gave us the components for the crime and the panel had to string them together. Funny how everyone started talking...very...slowly...to give their brain time to madly invent! Great fun, though.
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