From the islands of Hawaii in Sujata's blog yesterday, to a frightening Middle East today.
My guest this week is Yusuf Toropov, whose first novel JIHADI: A LOVE STORY made it to the quarter finals of Amazon's Breakthrough Novel Award. Publishers Weekly commented:
My guest this week is Yusuf Toropov, whose first novel JIHADI: A LOVE STORY made it to the quarter finals of Amazon's Breakthrough Novel Award. Publishers Weekly commented:
Smart and searing ... a deeply felt conviction of morally fraught choices that result in devastating outcomes.
And searing it is, raising questions that should always be raised, but often aren't; highlighting issues that are frequently kept hidden. Not a light read, but an intense and important one, particularly in these unsettled times in the Middle East and elsewhere.
Yusuf is an American Muslim writer. He's the author or co-author of a number of nonfiction books covering a wide range of topics under the name Brandon Toropov, including Shakespeare for Beginners, The Complete Idiot's Guide to World Religions, The Complete Idiot's Guide to Taoism, The Complete Idiot's Guide to the Popes and Papacy, and The Encyclopedia of Cold War Politics. His full-length play An Undivided Heart was selected for a workshop production at the National Playwrights Conference, and his one-act play The Job Search was produced off-Broadway.
He currently lives in Northern Ireland.
JIHADI: A LOVE STORY is available in e-book form in the UK and the USA from Orenda Books and will be released in the UK next week and in the USA in May in paperback.
Please welcome Yusuf Toropov to Murder is Everywhere.
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There is an ancient Chinese curse: “May you live in
interesting times.”
I am a Muslim wondering how best to live in such times, and
I know I’m not the only one. Case in point: It’s now a commonplace event for
Muslims to be asked one, two, or all three of the following questions, online
or in person, by total strangers:
- · #1: You’re a Muslim. Doesn’t that mean you agree with what ISIS is doing?
- · #2: ISIS is only doing what the Koran says, right?
- · #3: Why the hell haven’t you done something to stop ISIS and people like them?
These are, I concede, fascinating and important queries, and
rest assured I will answer them here, but first may I explain (because I
suspect you may have been curious) why Muslims sometimes wince when they hear such
things?
Listen.
It is 1927. In the United States, the Ku Klux Klan – a
murderous institution descended from the slave patrols that dealt out racially-motivated
mayhem and terror in the South before the Civil War – is experiencing a major
resurgence. Klan membership explodes among devout Protestant churchgoers, north
and south, who are lethally disposed not only toward blacks, but also toward
Catholics, Jews, and immigrants. Lots
of Klan members quote the Bible with authority. They kill people. They set off
bombs. They burn crosses. They hold night rallies. Among their number are
mayors, sheriffs, and congressmen. The numbers are sketchy, and they will
always remain sketchy, but the research will eventually suggest that, in a
country with a population of a little over 100 million people, an estimated
nine million people belong to the KKK.
The KKK pushing Catholics out of America. By Rev. Branford Clarke in Klansmen: Guardians of Liberty by Bishop Alma Bridwell White (Zarephath, NJ: 1926) |
Now. Please suppose for a moment that you are an American Christian
of that period, someone who loathes the Klan and wants nothing to do with it.
And then suppose a total stranger walks up to you at a party and asks:
- · #1: You’re a Christian. Doesn’t that mean you agree with what the Klan is doing?
- · #2: The Klan is only doing what the Bible says, right?
- · #3: Why the hell haven’t you done something to stop the Klan and people like them?
Admit it. You might just wince in such a situation. Not
because you want to dodge these questions. But because you feel insulted.
And also, perhaps, because you know it’s just possible that somewhere,
senior KKK people are smiling at your predicament. In fact, now that you think
about it, you know damn well these KKK leaders want you to live in a world
where there is THE KLAN, and there is EVERYONE ELSE.
They want you to have to
choose between those two groups. Not only that, they want you to do some PR
work on their behalf when you’re approached by that stranger at the party. They
want you to feel insulted. They want you emotional. They want you to overreact.
They want the exchange to start awkward and end awkward. They want that
stranger to start wondering about your motives.
The trouble with ISIS is that they’re basically hoping for the
same things.
So let’s say you and I are online. And let’s say we’ve never
met. Let’s say you notice my name, and you ask me what occurs to me as a weird
question, one of the three I’ve listed at the top of this article.
I need your help. I have been down this road before. I
suspect I will walk down this road again. So. I don’t want to overreact. Since
we find ourselves walking this road together, let me say up front what is true
for me: that I am not crazy about you introducing yourself by asking me that.
But you know what? If that’s what happens, it’s what happens. I am walking with
you now in the possibility of making this discussion authentic, not awkward.
Here, then, are my best short answers to the questions I hear most about ISIS.
- #1: No. I promise. Just no. I don't believe in what ISIS is doing. Can I tell you why?
- #2: They’d like you to believe that they are following the Koran. But no, they're not. Can I explain why I say that?
- 3: Actually, you know what? I have done something to stop ISIS and people like them. I wrote a novel.
Now that we’ve got that tricky opening exchange out of the
way, we’ve got a conversation.
Coexistence is all about conversation. Now you
and I can move on to a topic that ISIS or the Klan (which is, by the way, alive
and well) would rather we avoid: What we might happen to have in common.
Like the weather. Or the interesting times we live in. Or our
mutual curiosity about the best ways to lift a curse.
Nice to meet you. I look forward to
continuing the conversation with you at http://bit.ly/ToropovBlog.
Welcome, Yusuf, and well said. Emotions are tricky, dangerous things. They're the hard wiring that guided us before we had enough brains to think about more complex things. (Some might wonder whether that's not still the case...) If we learn to consider and be tolerant, our times become "less interesting."
ReplyDeleteWell put! I agree wholeheartedly.
ReplyDeleteGreat response to those questions. Don't know if you saw this video but you might find it interesting and resonant https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEnWw_lH4tQ
ReplyDeleteThat's a really eye-opening video. Thank you for sharing it!
DeleteThank you, Yusuf. Very well put. And of course there are always those - on both sides - who want to exploit the misconceptions for their own gain. One thinks of certain presidential candidates in the US, for example.
ReplyDeleteMany thanks, Michael! Yes, one does. bit.ly/-th-
DeleteGreat read. It is sad that their is such closed mindedness in this day and age, where information is so readily available. And, it's not those without access to it that ask those questions. I do believe that some people choose to just believe whatever others have told them without delving into and researching for themselves, and then, thereby developing their own opinions.
ReplyDeleteCouldn't agree more. This is one of the big reasons I wrote the novel.
DeleteThank you, Yusef. I am sharing this far and wide. I don't think these ideas can be expressed enough. And they are so well conveyed here. Bravo!
ReplyDeleteMany thanks, Annamaria. Glad you enjoyed it, and thanks for sharing it.
DeleteThe Klan will always be with us, though not always in the form of US Presidential Candidates...or so one can hope.
ReplyDeleteThese are very tough, scapegoating times. Perhaps the most widespread and mainstream of my lifetime. Glad you said what you did, Yusef.
Thank you for saying that, Jeffrey. Glad you enjoyed it.
DeleteThat makes two of us! Thank you for sharing that, Kathy.
ReplyDeleteIn unity there is strength! Not to mention that it's one of the best things about being human -- meeting people from all over the world, different communities, cultures, histories. We all learn and grow as people.
ReplyDeleteIt's unfortunate that some people are afraid of learning about and meeting and befriending people and opening up their minds. It's only good.