tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1990338437877873686.post832669762009784919..comments2024-03-28T20:02:35.777-04:00Comments on Murder is Everywhere: Were the Medici Italian?- ReduxOvidia Yuhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05749549092493567689noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1990338437877873686.post-58860748947995193092018-09-11T07:29:07.630-04:002018-09-11T07:29:07.630-04:00It's even better the second time around. :)It's even better the second time around. :)<br />Jeffrey Sigerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00718317707555064653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1990338437877873686.post-51530335504468239212016-12-21T04:39:07.000-05:002016-12-21T04:39:07.000-05:00Hilarious all of it, post and comments.
This post...Hilarious all of it, post and comments.<br /><br />This post just reminded me of the very British Rufus Sewell portraying the very Italian police investigator, Aurelio Zen on TV. <br /><br />Over here in the States, there is a lot of Americanizing of history on TV and in movies. It is often laughable.<br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1990338437877873686.post-51643276614848508922016-12-20T18:56:37.148-05:002016-12-20T18:56:37.148-05:00Good question!Good question!Annamaria Alfierihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12311596277267789834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1990338437877873686.post-85554732267664609702016-12-20T18:48:55.489-05:002016-12-20T18:48:55.489-05:00Unlikely... that you'll report back? :-)Unlikely... that you'll report back? :-)Everett Kaserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12371555243187874414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1990338437877873686.post-72773722406793279962016-12-20T11:17:45.143-05:002016-12-20T11:17:45.143-05:00No need, Annamaria: Brexit, Boris Johnson #trouser...No need, Annamaria: Brexit, Boris Johnson #trousergate. We make fun of ourselves ...Zoë Sharphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14065427744062846167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1990338437877873686.post-80576192590864084142016-12-20T07:50:57.969-05:002016-12-20T07:50:57.969-05:00Okay. I confess. They were not extramarital I fee...Okay. I confess. They were not extramarital I feel compelled to say. But I have had two love affairs with Americans of Italian descent. Not a statistical sample worthy of broad generalizations. I am leaving for Italy on Friday. I am tempted to say I will do further research and report back But that is highly unlikely.Annamaria Alfierihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12311596277267789834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1990338437877873686.post-58766065862097059352016-12-20T07:42:51.550-05:002016-12-20T07:42:51.550-05:00No defensiveness here. However you did say that t...No defensiveness here. However you did say that the sex scenes were not Italian! Hmm! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1990338437877873686.post-91688961212477193232016-12-20T07:01:17.281-05:002016-12-20T07:01:17.281-05:00Yup. The director seems to think a slender body, l...Yup. The director seems to think a slender body, lots of hair gel, and heavy eye makeup are all it takes to make a person sexy. A pov with which I for one do not agree. Annamaria Alfierihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12311596277267789834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1990338437877873686.post-3357640421431800722016-12-20T06:57:23.694-05:002016-12-20T06:57:23.694-05:00Jeez Louise! Why is everbeing so defensive? you ...Jeez Louise! Why is everbeing so defensive? you I disclaimed any direct knowledge of sex among the or with English people. I just said the sex portrayed in the show was boring. I was satirizing cultural stupidity. Is it a sign of bias to make fun of the English? Annamaria Alfierihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12311596277267789834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1990338437877873686.post-13172358481454749952016-12-20T06:44:26.986-05:002016-12-20T06:44:26.986-05:00Annamaria: it puzzles me that you use non-Italian ...Annamaria: it puzzles me that you use non-Italian names for the cities - Florence, Venice, Rome, etc., and not what the Italians call them. A little cultural bias perhaps? And I wonder about your insights into the differences with respect to sex between the English and Italians.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1990338437877873686.post-45412052257782950822016-12-19T23:54:17.125-05:002016-12-19T23:54:17.125-05:00Oh, no, Zoe. NOT YOU. And I really was trying to ...Oh, no, Zoe. NOT YOU. And I really was trying to poke fun at the lack of tact. I was laughing when I wrote it. Especially the parts about the Pope and them not being able to pronounce their own names. And really--I did disclaim any first-hand (ahem) knowledge of sex among the English. The actors on my TV were English, but they were just faking it. Annamaria Alfierihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12311596277267789834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1990338437877873686.post-80464498253060170242016-12-19T19:09:22.484-05:002016-12-19T19:09:22.484-05:00Feeling just a teensy bit got at now, chaps. Parti...Feeling just a teensy bit got at now, chaps. Particularly when the American movie view of history and geography can be ... interesting, to say the least. And we live in an age when even so-called 'reality' TV isn't real, so what did you expect of drama?<br /><br />However, sex scenes that 'start in the middle and end very quickly' with 'no seduction, no foreplay, no fun' is not necessarily an English trait. They may simply have been married ...Zoë Sharphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14065427744062846167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1990338437877873686.post-26676181738075882152016-12-19T19:01:23.314-05:002016-12-19T19:01:23.314-05:00You can run, EvKa, but you can't hide ...You can run, EvKa, but you can't hide ...Zoë Sharphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14065427744062846167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1990338437877873686.post-70874516416756030232016-12-19T16:31:38.492-05:002016-12-19T16:31:38.492-05:00:-) An interesting idea, but nowhere did I say you...:-) An interesting idea, but nowhere did I say you were being unfair EXCEPT in regards to picking on their sex scenes. For all we know, those scenes are highly realistic and representative of English sex. (Oops. I need to go into hiding for fear of Charlie Fox tracking me down...)Everett Kaserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12371555243187874414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1990338437877873686.post-9188604899211900362016-12-19T15:19:58.622-05:002016-12-19T15:19:58.622-05:00Jeff, let's leave bellybuttons out of this, pl...Jeff, let's leave bellybuttons out of this, please. Annamaria Alfierihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12311596277267789834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1990338437877873686.post-25084667659783940922016-12-19T15:18:35.269-05:002016-12-19T15:18:35.269-05:00It's really unfair, EvKa, that you are telling...It's really unfair, EvKa, that you are telling me I am being unfair to the English by calling them unfair to the Italians. Just for that, I am tempted to produce a miniseries about Oregon, in which all the elegant and important people speak with a New York accent. And all the garbage collectors and prostitutes speak like Oregonians. Then, you would have a good reason to say I am being unfair. And you may have thought I would fall for your enticing use of the word stiff in your comment about sex among the English, and offer some salacious puns. I can't say I am not tempted. But I will not succumb. Annamaria Alfierihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12311596277267789834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1990338437877873686.post-37948458579074051972016-12-19T14:59:04.406-05:002016-12-19T14:59:04.406-05:00Aren't sex scenes supposed to start in the mid...Aren't sex scenes supposed to start in the middle? PAUSE. Oh, you're talking about time, not location.<br /><br />Jeffrey Sigerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00718317707555064653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1990338437877873686.post-6619843283058738372016-12-19T13:45:58.748-05:002016-12-19T13:45:58.748-05:00It doesn't really sound like the English did a...It doesn't really sound like the English did any worse than anyone else. Just study how American film treats other countries and cultures. I think it's a rare filmmaker who's able carry off the splits, placing one foot firmly in the country/culture of the story's setting and the other foot in the country/culture of the story's audience.<br /><br />Is it talent that is so rare, or people who give a shit about honestly and accurately conveying one culture to another while telling an interesting story at the same time?<br /><br />And it's unfair to pick on their love scenes when their stiffness carries all the way to their upper lip...Everett Kaserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12371555243187874414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1990338437877873686.post-69376675868007968682016-12-19T10:53:15.839-05:002016-12-19T10:53:15.839-05:00I love them, too, Juno. I thought I was giving th...I love them, too, Juno. I thought I was giving them a ribbing, not a serious challenge. I was actually laughing when I wrote the piece. Especially the part about the Pope not being able to make the sign of the cross. They could have, at least, kept an Italian handy for details like that. But then he or she might have objected to the slanderous plot. It is not Florentine history AT ALL. It is actually Game of Thrones with great art and buildings, and lots of hair gel. Annamaria Alfierihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12311596277267789834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1990338437877873686.post-2147038983966063712016-12-19T10:38:21.299-05:002016-12-19T10:38:21.299-05:00They seem to have missed the whole point of being ...They seem to have missed the whole point of being Italian. While I love the Brits, they do have their deficiencies.Jonohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18170214396483091419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1990338437877873686.post-80947066862741551122016-12-19T09:07:23.405-05:002016-12-19T09:07:23.405-05:00Too true, Caro. I was trying to keep my tongue fi...Too true, Caro. I was trying to keep my tongue firmly in my cheek or I would have made a frontal attack on the story they tell. It has just about nothing to do with the real story, and it paints real characters from history in a calumnious way. Something any serious writer of historical fiction would avoid like the plague.<br /><br />On the other hand, while the face makeup of the aristocratic women is definitely 21st Century suburban, the plague makeup on the extras is very convincing. Annamaria Alfierihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12311596277267789834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1990338437877873686.post-73129428705959877152016-12-19T05:04:00.092-05:002016-12-19T05:04:00.092-05:00The English eh? What can you do? They do like thei...The English eh? What can you do? They do like their history their way. Anybody's history that is.<br />Caro Ramsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08499318515241879831noreply@blogger.com