tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1990338437877873686.post4060446867689499231..comments2024-03-28T16:47:51.948-04:00Comments on Murder is Everywhere: The Jesuit MissionsOvidia Yuhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05749549092493567689noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1990338437877873686.post-55985009395798594732011-12-06T17:27:00.221-05:002011-12-06T17:27:00.221-05:00Nice hat.Nice hat.Howard Mardernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1990338437877873686.post-59617359202014102012011-12-05T15:21:59.674-05:002011-12-05T15:21:59.674-05:00Ignatius Loyola was a soldier. When he was recove...Ignatius Loyola was a soldier. When he was recovering from wounds, he had a vision instructing him to form an army for Christ. He established the Society of Jesus, often referred to as Soldiers for Christ. Initially, the Jesuits were established as a missionary order but in light of the Jesuit motto, "Give me the boy until he is seven, and I will give back to you the man", they moved onto education. (They got you too late, Jeff).<br /><br />Most Catholic priests enter the seminary today after college. There is a four year course of study leading to ordination, so back when young men were entering the priesthood, they were ordained at 25 or 24 years of age. The Jesuits required an eleven year course of preparation so Jesuits were ordained when they were closer to thirty-three. There is a big difference in a man who is 25 and a man who is 33. The men who made it to ordination in the Jesuits were more mature and more sure of the direction in which they were going.<br /><br />As to "theocratic regimes of terror", as educators in the twentieth century, the Jesuits did not engage in corporal punishment of their high school students as did the Christian Brothers. Until recently, the men who ran the commonwealth of Massachusetts were often triple eagles, the mascot of the Jesuit institutions in Boston. A triple eagle is a man who graduates from Boston College High School, Boston College, and Boston College Law School. When I was applying to college, women were only admitted to two schools that constituted BC, the school of education and the school of nursing. The Jesuits were dragged kicking and screaming into a world in which they had to educate women. This had nothing to do with misogyny; the goal of the Jesuits is always to bring intelligent and committed men into the priesthood.<br /><br />Getting back to "theocratic regimes of terror." The Jesuits and their brothers in education had nothing on the nuns. My husband insists that one of his ears sticks out more than the other because it was pulled and twisted by the nuns throughout his elementary school education.Bethhttp://www.murderbytype.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1990338437877873686.post-57370487149499916572011-12-05T14:50:14.757-05:002011-12-05T14:50:14.757-05:00For some reason, I spent a year at Villanova Unive...For some reason, I spent a year at Villanova University, among the Augustinians. (Pennsylvania). Much later, I took classes at Santa Clara University in California, a Jesuit Institution. There was a very different feel. I'm not sure whether you feel the Jesuits came in and took over the native peoples, but I do know they valued education, and learning, and discussion. there was a sense of respect and wonder (I was in the art building) just as I felt when I saw your pictures today. Lovely post.lil Glucksternhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09288522126331817172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1990338437877873686.post-30840816186921641012011-12-05T09:49:57.483-05:002011-12-05T09:49:57.483-05:00Truly interesting blog. Thanks!Truly interesting blog. Thanks!Joe Baronehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10275991273751678636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1990338437877873686.post-74133298011732109672011-12-05T06:44:19.515-05:002011-12-05T06:44:19.515-05:00Your photographic visions of such great beauty do ...Your photographic visions of such great beauty do not summon up memories of my time among the Jesuits, but your reference to "theocratic regimes of terror" does bring back more than a few final exam experiences.Jeffrey Sigerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00718317707555064653noreply@blogger.com